Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Public urged to write letters about Point
Thursday, 2 April 2009 - 2:15pm
About 50 people from Fort Frances and surrounding First Nations attended a public forum last night at the East End Hall organized by concerned citizen Andrew George.
He isn’t sure what will come out of the forum, but is hopeful people will be motivated to speak up about what they want to see happen with the land.
“The whole idea was definitely good for discussion and was good to document,” George noted this morning. “[But] it doesn’t really matter if we sat in a room and talked about it unless we do something as people, and the only thing we really can do is contact various levels of government with letters.
“Write a letter to the editor—that’s really powerful. More powerful than people think,” he added.
“Start writing. Get a friend to write a letter,” George urged. “If they get that many letters and no response, that’s not a good thing when election time comes.
“Definitely, we’ll get a response if we start writing letters,” he stressed. “I don’t know if we’ll find out what’s going to happen May 1 before May 1, but perhaps some of the concerns can be addressed.
“What’s been negotiated, how often do you negotiate, what’s the core process like? These are things none of us know.”
At last night’s forum, George read a letter dating back to September in which legal counsel for the province and federal government warns Fort Frances and the four bands—Couchiching, Naicatchewenin, Nicickousemenecaning, and Stanjikoming—that they must come to a deal between themselves prior to May 1.
“We would like clarify our position to the status of the park once the lease expires in the event other arrangements are not in place,” the letter read. “It is the view of both Ontario and Canada the lands are unsold surrendered lands which would be unencumbered by any lease.
“The lands will not automatically revert to First Nations, nor would the town have any continued legal right to occupy or to use the lands.
“The limited time available until expiry of the lease emphasizes the need for all parties to make a concerted effort to arrive at a satisfactory, mutually-beneficial agreement as soon as possible,” it continued.
Several residents felt the Fort Frances mayor and councillors, as well as the four chiefs, should have been at last night’s forum to hear their concerns and to sit down and work out a solution to the issue.
“We elected those people, we put them in office. Why aren’t they here?” asked Couchiching band member Ida Linklater.
Naicatchewenin resident Gilbert Smith said he felt the native people never had any intention to give up their land when the lease was signed, reasoning that there’s no question who it belongs to.
After all, a lease is a lease, he argued. When you lease a car from a dealer, after so many years you return it to the dealer.
“There’s a simple solution to this. The leaders should come together to talk about this,” Smith noted, adding he personally would like to see a new lease struck between parties and that the town would continue to look after it.
Overall, George said he was pleased with the turnout.
“Just to see people from the all the communities, to see First Nations people talking to white people, talking together, and at the end, sharing ideas,” he remarked. “These people didn’t know each other at all, but they were sitting there, talking about the issue with a common goal.
“It was really nice to see in that aspect. I think it went really, really well.
“I don’t want to speak for everyone there, but I think the general sense I got was that everyone wants it [the Point] to be publicly-accessible the same way it always has.
“I got the sense some of the people from the First Nations would like to see it continue to be called a reserve, but the people from town that wasn’t their main concern.
“Their concern was, ‘Can I bring my grandkids there in the summer? Can I still walk there? Can I take my dog there?’”
George noted his only regret was he wasn’t able to get more youths out for the forum.
“I think this is going to affect young people like me, who are going to want to live here for a long time,” he reasoned.
By Duane Hicks Staff writer
With the lease for Pither’s Point Park due to expire at the end the month, at least some local residents are concerned about what will happen to the land, who will be able to use it and for what purpose, whether community leaders are working to come to a resolution, and why they can’t be more open about it.
Now the public is being called on to write leaders to their municipal, band, provincial, and federal leaders for answers.
He isn’t sure what will come out of the forum, but is hopeful people will be motivated to speak up about what they want to see happen with the land.
“The whole idea was definitely good for discussion and was good to document,” George noted this morning. “[But] it doesn’t really matter if we sat in a room and talked about it unless we do something as people, and the only thing we really can do is contact various levels of government with letters.
“Write a letter to the editor—that’s really powerful. More powerful than people think,” he added.
“Start writing. Get a friend to write a letter,” George urged. “If they get that many letters and no response, that’s not a good thing when election time comes.
“Definitely, we’ll get a response if we start writing letters,” he stressed. “I don’t know if we’ll find out what’s going to happen May 1 before May 1, but perhaps some of the concerns can be addressed.
“What’s been negotiated, how often do you negotiate, what’s the core process like? These are things none of us know.”
At last night’s forum, George read a letter dating back to September in which legal counsel for the province and federal government warns Fort Frances and the four bands—Couchiching, Naicatchewenin, Nicickousemenecaning, and Stanjikoming—that they must come to a deal between themselves prior to May 1.
“We would like clarify our position to the status of the park once the lease expires in the event other arrangements are not in place,” the letter read. “It is the view of both Ontario and Canada the lands are unsold surrendered lands which would be unencumbered by any lease.
“The lands will not automatically revert to First Nations, nor would the town have any continued legal right to occupy or to use the lands.
“The limited time available until expiry of the lease emphasizes the need for all parties to make a concerted effort to arrive at a satisfactory, mutually-beneficial agreement as soon as possible,” it continued.
Several residents felt the Fort Frances mayor and councillors, as well as the four chiefs, should have been at last night’s forum to hear their concerns and to sit down and work out a solution to the issue.
“We elected those people, we put them in office. Why aren’t they here?” asked Couchiching band member Ida Linklater.
Naicatchewenin resident Gilbert Smith said he felt the native people never had any intention to give up their land when the lease was signed, reasoning that there’s no question who it belongs to.
After all, a lease is a lease, he argued. When you lease a car from a dealer, after so many years you return it to the dealer.
“There’s a simple solution to this. The leaders should come together to talk about this,” Smith noted, adding he personally would like to see a new lease struck between parties and that the town would continue to look after it.
Overall, George said he was pleased with the turnout.
“Just to see people from the all the communities, to see First Nations people talking to white people, talking together, and at the end, sharing ideas,” he remarked. “These people didn’t know each other at all, but they were sitting there, talking about the issue with a common goal.
“It was really nice to see in that aspect. I think it went really, really well.
“I don’t want to speak for everyone there, but I think the general sense I got was that everyone wants it [the Point] to be publicly-accessible the same way it always has.
“I got the sense some of the people from the First Nations would like to see it continue to be called a reserve, but the people from town that wasn’t their main concern.
“Their concern was, ‘Can I bring my grandkids there in the summer? Can I still walk there? Can I take my dog there?’”
George noted his only regret was he wasn’t able to get more youths out for the forum.
“I think this is going to affect young people like me, who are going to want to live here for a long time,” he reasoned.






Pithers Point Park
I was first in the Fort about 10 years ago.The first thing I felt is the beauty of the Point.We decided to buy a place here and plan on retiring here,we live out of province.Its good to here that everyone is trying to come up with an agreement.The town should give the natives more per year at least at now aday rates.Hopefully they would agree.Everyone should be able to enjoy the Point,anyway the way way I look at it as long as its being looked after,we are all made by the creater equally!
I have been closely
I have been closely monitoring these discussions, for over a year now. I live in Fort Frances and I have had the opportunity to enjoy the land but it is only a lease and we must respect that. As mentioned, we are bound by legal contracts when we lease a vehicle and at the end of the term, our lease is up. The Aboriginal communities have been gracious hosts that deserve our gratitude. I would hope that an agreement can be made however, it is not up to us to decide what we want to do with our neighbours' property.
Thank you to the 4 Bands for the time we have had. I wish you luck and trust you will make the best decision for your communityies as we (the Town) would certainly do for ours.
Your friendly neighbour,
Anonymous.
going to affect
This is going to be the saddest year this town has seen in years. Pithers Point Park has been a landmark that has represented Fort Frances for 100 years and now it has and is being striped as if it was an old used car in a junkyard.
What a shame it is to have elected these people to rip apart everything that means so much to the people of this town and the surrounding community's.
If the First Nations are offering us the lease again then we should be working on doing our best to take action to renew the lease and do what we can to beautify the park, ad attractions and allow our children to have the same memories we have now.
We as a community should be working with the First Nations as it benefits every person that lives in and around this whole area.
It seems our Elected Council cares more about what they think rather than what the people of this town is yelling at them.
Working Together!
I believe this is the perfect time for everyone to come together as one, to work as hard as we can together for our children.
I believe all choices should be made with the hopes of keeping the Point a public area for everyone to use and to increase its use.
I believe we can find a way to acknowledge the First Nations ownership of the land , the town of Fort Frances could form a partnership with these reserves (by becoming an equal owner of the land.. paying the reserves what would be owed as an equal share holder)
It would be the perfect area to add a childrens (family) facility that could be used all year round. For children to play & families to socialize without a huge cost, to help keep our children happy, full of excellent memories, off the street and off of drugs. Activities for children are endless and with the right resources, funding, education, time and support we can all work together to make this happen.
Of course this will be expensive but it is possible and most definitly worth it : fundraising, grants, and working together could make it possible.
Creating/keeping a place where we all could go together and feel we belong : break racial, social, economic barriers and just have FUN!. Our kids deserve it, dont you think?
Pithers Point Park
I grew in the Fort and spent many "lazy days" at the "Point". It was a place where kids could go on their bikes, spend the day at the dock or on the beach and just be kids with good clean water and fun.
For the town and the area to lose that place will be a severe loss for all concerned, the town people, the first nation people, all the visitors that go there, and the subtle, but definite ambience that pervades.There are so many fond memories that go way back to the 1940's, and my parents and grandparents before me.
Good common sense people of both groups should (and can if they put their minds to it), find a mutually beneficial solution.
Don't let this ambience get lost in petty bickering!
Franklin Warner -- Ft Myers FL.